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James Nelson
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| Rafe, Thanks again for your talent of articulately of describing the persistent stupidity of the Lions Bay Mayor and Council. My answer and recourse can be summed up in very few words: “The Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms”. I recently presented Mayor Broughton and Councilor Akerhielm each with their own , very attractive, copy of the Canadian Charter. I found these beautiful copies of the Charter of Rights and Freedoms on the brochure rack of the Service Canada Office. I immediately knew who should reminded of the country that they live in and the laws that protect the rights and freedom of all. I also kept a copy for myself. So, The Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms has now become my Lions Bay “parking pass” and I will proudly display it on my dashboard whenever I go there for a visit. If I receive a parking ticket, diving ticket or any ticket that contravenes the Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms, I will, without question dispute the ticket. The Village of Lions Bay touts that it has adopted the Adjudication process as a means to deal with disputed bylaw tickets. How thoroughly was this Adjudication Process researched prior to it’s implementation? Under Section 269 of the Community Charter, it clearly states that disputed bylaw tickets are to be addressed by the Provincial Court. Disputes that involve a Charter argument, must be addressed by the Supreme Court, not the Provincial Court nor an Adjudicator. I shudder at the thought of the lashing that the Village of Lions Bay would receive as a result of the findings of the Supreme Court , not to mention the massive court bill that the Village would then be forced to absorb. |
Joe W
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| Rafe, I think you sum up feelings on the council's recent decisions (good neighbour, parking, parks use ...) well. I'm outraged that our RV parking was removed in 2007 and never replaced. Now I will be ticketed since I park my RV in front of my home.... even though my neighbours are in agreement to have it parked there. And to make matters worse I won't be able to park it there all spring, summer, and fall when it is regularly used. How does one go about seeking a recall on a municipal politicians? |
James Nelson
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| Joe W, We went through this song and dance in the current Mayor Broughtons last term. Even though petitions were presented and some councellors abstained the anti trailer rules were railroaded through. The current rules are even harsher. The village appearance takes precident over the citizens covenience. |
Alice Tickner
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| I would just like to comment on how fortunate we are to have the local Mayor and Council that we do. They work for peanuts for this Village and I think that it is disgraceful the way they are dumped on. Nobody is perfect, but they are doing their best to protect us with the bylaws from the response that they are getting from their citizens. I'm sure Rafe if I told people excactly where you lived in Lions Bay, and in my art shows that I do downtown and even outside people who walk in the gallery doors, I certainly have ample opportunity to do that. But I wouldn't dream of it as you are a fellow Lions Bay citizen and I protect your privacy and safety. And is that not what the Village Council is doing for us? I'm sure if they are presented at Council the upset and concern that people have because there is nowhere for their boats and trailers to be parked, that the Council would find a solution for it. But to grump on a website is not the way to go about it. I for one have a lot of respect for the time and commitment that the Mayor and Councillors have for this Village, as well as the present high standards that they present to us. And for the records, it is not the "Mayor's" car park, it is the Lions Bay Village Centre's Stata Council car park and we do the best we can to serve you. Thank you. |
James Nelson
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| Alice, the Council at the time, Bill Spohn, Carol Bajus, Peter Stevenson and Mayor Broughton were presented with signed petitions on trailers. Delegations took time to present their case in person to Mayor and Council only to be ignored and dismissed. v Council votes on the trailer by-law were deliberatly delayed to force people to return at a later date.The Mayor and Council invented a new definition of roadway to include all property not privately owned so parking could not take place off the travelled portion of the road.The sad fact is that the present Mayor (also the former Mayor) and her "barking dogs" do not want a boat trailer in the village. They reject the notion that a person might want to unlaod their travel trailer in less than the required 24hrs. Also the trailer must remain connected to the tow vehicle. A utility trailer to haul refuse to the reduction station must be parked on your own property. This requirement is outrageous in a village that has few level streets and has properties that are located either up or down from the road. On the question of council working for peanuts, the old saw goes " when you pay peanuts you get monkeys". J.Nelson PS. We were better served by an unpaid Mayor and Council. I believe Mayor Broughton brought pay scale for Mayor and Council. |
Rafe Mair
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| I feel I must respond to this.offering by Mr. Tickner > > The mayor and council knew what job they were seeking and the pay to be > received. I've been in elected public life and know that when you screw up > you can't claim that you work for peanuts or the hours you must work. > > I'm unclear what Mr. Tickner means about "privacy and safety" but I would > remind him that it was the Mayor who went on TV not I. The issue of divers > has nothing to do with boats and trailers and Mr. Tickner obviously > subscribes to the theory practiced by at least one councilor namely mix the > issue at hand with other irrelevant issues. Just as the issue of divers has > nothing to do with trespassers on the CN right-of-way nor trespassing on > private property it has nothing to do with boats and trailers. > > The issue of divers has made us look like fools - I had nothing to do with > the passage of the bylaw but stood up for those of us who believe in the > Charter of Rights and Freedoms and who believe that divers ought to be as > welcome on our beaches as we are welcome to the sea walls, streams and > hiking trails of others. > > Mr. Tickner, the fault for this mess lies entirely with the Mayor and > Council and they ought to have the guts to apologize and repeal that bylaw > along with the "good neighbour" one. > > In case Mr. Tickner wants to know if I ever apologized for my political > errors I can say - you bet I did, promptly and fully and I will be glad to > provide full details. > > Rafe Mair > ----- |
Lawrence Ruskin
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| I have been here for 25 odd years here and every now and then some folks on council feel we just don't have enough law and order around here. We seem to have entered yet another of these periods. Take a look down in Kelvin Grove, there must be 20-30 signs down there, this is because ONE guy is complaining his head off. And did you notice we now have signs telling us there are stop signs just 10 feet ahead. Signs to tell us there are signs ahead? This is a sign that taxpayer's money is being squandered... |
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